Quick answer
A first edition of The Greene Murder Case by S. S. Van Dine (Charles Scribner's Sons, 1928) is identified by: The Scribner's seal appears at the foot of the copyright page, per Scribner's pre-1930 practice (seal plus date of publication on firsts; later printings noted); the Scribner 'A' was not used until 1930 and its absence is not a fault. The US edition — Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, 1928 — is the true first; the novel was serialized in Scribner's Magazine in early 1928 (the February 1928 issue is confirmed) ahead of book publication.
Checklist — a true first has these:
- The Scribner's seal appears at the foot of the copyright page, per Scribner's pre-1930 practice (seal plus date of publication on firsts; later printings noted); the Scribner 'A' was not used until 1930 and its absence is not a fault
- A genuine state distinction is documented and independently reported: the first state has the title page dated MCMXXVIII with a matching copyright notice reading 'Copyright, 1928' only, while the second state reads 'Copyright, 1927, 1928, by Charles Scribner's Sons' on the copyright page — the added 1927 reflecting the earlier serial copyright
- Binding is publisher's black cloth with Art-Deco stamping in cream/white to the front cover and spine, collating xii, 388 pp. plus an ad leaf, with a frontispiece (a woodcut of the Greene mansion by Lowell L. Balcom) and figures in the text
- The jacket should be a priced jacket with the price present at the flap
- Publisher imprint reads Charles Scribner's Sons
- Not a book-club edition (see below)
| Author | S. S. Van Dine |
|---|---|
| Publisher | Charles Scribner's Sons |
| Year | 1928 |
| True first | US edition |
| Format | Hardcover (trade) |
| Key point | The Scribner's seal appears at the foot of the copyright page, per Scribner's pre-1930 practice (seal plus date of publication on firsts… |
| Book-club edition exists? | — |
The points of issue
- The Scribner's seal appears at the foot of the copyright page, per Scribner's pre-1930 practice (seal plus date of publication on firsts; later printings noted); the Scribner 'A' was not used until 1930 and its absence is not a fault
- A genuine state distinction is documented and independently reported: the first state has the title page dated MCMXXVIII with a matching copyright notice reading 'Copyright, 1928' only, while the second state reads 'Copyright, 1927, 1928, by Charles Scribner's Sons' on the copyright page — the added 1927 reflecting the earlier serial copyright
- Binding is publisher's black cloth with Art-Deco stamping in cream/white to the front cover and spine, collating xii, 388 pp. plus an ad leaf, with a frontispiece (a woodcut of the Greene mansion by Lowell L. Balcom) and figures in the text
- The jacket should be a priced jacket with the price present at the flap
How Charles Scribner's Sons marked a first edition
- Pre-1930: Scribner seal/device plus month-and-year of publication on copyright page; first printings either carry matching dates on title page and copyright page or show no later printings noted.
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How to verify your copy, step by step
- Find the copyright page — the verso (back) of the title page.
- Check for a number line or dated printing — the lowest number present is the printing; a dated first printing with no later printings listed is the tell.
- Verify this is the US true first — not a later-market or reprint edition.
- Rule out a book-club edition — a blind-stamp on the rear board or a jacket with no printed price marks a book-club copy.
- Photograph four things — the front cover, spine, title page, and copyright page — the standard record for identification.
The dust jacket
For a collectible first edition the dust jacket matters as much as the book. Confirm the jacket is present and unclipped — the printed price should still be at the corner of the flap (a clipped corner or a price-less flap can indicate a book-club issue). First-state jackets can differ from later ones in the cover art, blurbs, or review quotations; where a specific first-state jacket point is known for this title it is noted above.
Binding & format
Where multiple bindings exist, the hardcover trade issue is usually (but not always) the precedence copy — confirm against the points above. Later printings often show cheaper cloth, thinner boards, or simplified spine stamping. A simultaneous signed or limited issue, when one exists, is a distinct state from the trade first.
Is this the true first?
The US edition — Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, 1928 — is the true first; the novel was serialized in Scribner's Magazine in early 1928 (the February 1928 issue is confirmed) ahead of book publication. The UK edition is Ernest Benn, London, 1928, the first English edition and separately collected; The Spectator reviewed the Benn edition on 5 May 1928, consistent with the US book preceding it. Benn issued a fourth impression in 1930, so the Benn imprint alone does not establish a first. The census claim (US Scribner's 1928 precedes UK Benn 1928) is confirmed.
Telling it from reprints & book-club editions
The Grosset & Dunlap photoplay edition of 1929, illustrated with eight stills from the William Powell film, is the common trap; any Grosset & Dunlap imprint is a reprint and lacks the Scribner seal. Note also that the original Scribner's Magazine serial parts (January–April 1928) are sometimes offered bound up and are not the book first edition.
Frequently asked questions
Is my copy of The Greene Murder Case a first edition?
A first edition of The Greene Murder Case by S. S. Van Dine (Charles Scribner's Sons) is identified by: The Scribner's seal appears at the foot of the copyright page, per Scribner's pre-1930 practice (seal plus date of publication on firsts; later printings noted); the Scribner 'A' was not used until 1930 and its absence is not a fault.
How do I tell the first printing from a later one?
Check the copyright page. A stated first edition, a number line ending in 1, or a dated first printing with no later printings listed is the key. The US edition — Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, 1928 — is the true first; the novel was serialized in Scribner's Magazine in early 1928 (the February 1928 issue is confirmed) ahead of book publication.
Is the book-club edition the same as the first?
The Grosset & Dunlap photoplay edition of 1929, illustrated with eight stills from the William Powell film, is the common trap; any Grosset & Dunlap imprint is a reprint and lacks the Scribner seal. Note also that the original Scribner's Magazine serial parts (January–April 1928) are sometimes offered bound up and are not the book first edition.
I have a first edition of The Greene Murder Case — what should I do?
First, document the copy: photograph the copyright page (the number line and any edition statement) and the dust-jacket flap — an unclipped, priced jacket matters. Confirm the points of issue above against your copy, and use the free First Edition Checker to decode the printing. To sell, the author’s collecting guide covers the market. And if you are clearing books in the Albuquerque area, the New Mexico Literacy Project offers free pickup, any condition, and makes sure collectible copies are identified rather than discarded.
Glossary
- First edition
- Every copy printed from the first setting of type. Collectors usually want the first edition, first printing (the true first).
- First printing / impression
- A single press run from that setting. The first printing is the earliest and most desirable; later printings are still the first edition but not the true first.
- Number line (printer's key)
- A row of numbers on the copyright page (e.g. 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1). The lowest number present is the printing — a line including 1 marks a first printing (Random House deliberately ends at 2).
- Points of issue
- Specific physical details — a stated edition, a number line, a typo, a jacket state — that identify the true first printing.
- Book-club edition (BCE)
- A reprint made for a book club. Tells include a blind-stamped dot or square on the rear board and a dust jacket with no printed price. Not the true first.
- First thus
- The first appearance of a particular version (first paperback, first illustrated, first U.S. printing) — a first of that kind, not the first edition of the work.
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How to cite this page
New Mexico Literacy Project. “Is The Greene Murder Case by S. S. Van Dine a First Edition? Points of Issue.” NMLP First-Edition Identification Reference. Reviewed 4 July 2026. Retrieved from https://newmexicoliteracyproject.org/first-edition/the-greene-murder-case. Licensed CC BY 4.0 — part of the open Canonical First-Edition Points of Issue dataset (DOI 10.5281/zenodo.21184548).